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== Hungarian ids ==
 
== Hungarian ids ==
 
May I ask why you rollback it? We link to these ids so the Hungarian translations makes sense. (If it's important to keep these ids but link to the Hungarian translation, I can put it in another cell.) [[Szerkesztő:Connorhu|Connorhu]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Connorhu|vita]]) 2024. június 28., 18:40 (UTC)
 
May I ask why you rollback it? We link to these ids so the Hungarian translations makes sense. (If it's important to keep these ids but link to the Hungarian translation, I can put it in another cell.) [[Szerkesztő:Connorhu|Connorhu]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Connorhu|vita]]) 2024. június 28., 18:40 (UTC)
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:Hello Connor, I'm sorry I did that without explanation! The reason is that at least one other translated page linked to the English ID, so the changes broke that link.
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:The IDs in table cells are, quite frankly, a mess in all non-English languages. No one knows if they should translate them or not. (Mostly, translators don't know what the heck they are, so they just translate them.) You may already know, but the ID is used to link to a subsection of a page. So, I could link to [[Küldetések#How to Win Friends]], and clicking the link would take you to that section of the page instead of the top.
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:The IDs could be anything, like "q1", "helloworld", "küldetések222", "k49", etc. If they remain in English, there's less to translate. At least that was my thinking initially when other languages were first added. Now, it's a bit of a mess. In 11 languages.
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:So, now that you have the background, I'll let you decide if they should be translated or not.
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:Again, I apologize for not communicating this sooner! [[Szerkesztő:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Margotbean|vita]]) 2024. június 29., 16:39 (UTC)
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::Also, I apologize for not reading your comment more thoroughly! Having two IDs would solve the problem completely! The syntax would be: <code><nowiki>|id="Introductions" id="Bemutatkozás"|Bemutatkozás</nowiki></code>
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::Genius!! 👏👏👏 [[Szerkesztő:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Margotbean|vita]]) 2024. június 29., 16:42 (UTC)
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:::Thank you for your reply and the proposed solution. I'm a software developer with more than 20+ years of experience, so I know what the id attribute can be used for. :)
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:::Although the HTML specification does not exclude that an element can have multiple id attributes, it may cause unexpected side effects.
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:::The fact that the reference is broken only means that after modification I have to check who is referring to that cell row (by the way, the rollback broke my reference).
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:::The lazy and safe solution is a second id attribute on another cell. [[Szerkesztő:Connorhu|Connorhu]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Connorhu|vita]]) 2024. július 10., 07:06 (UTC)
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::::I checked, only 86 pages link to the quest page. maybe it's not a big task to do the translation for all ids and update the links. This is also an option. [[Szerkesztő:Connorhu|Connorhu]] ([[Szerkesztővita:Connorhu|vita]]) 2024. július 10., 07:15 (UTC)

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May I ask why you rollback it? We link to these ids so the Hungarian translations makes sense. (If it's important to keep these ids but link to the Hungarian translation, I can put it in another cell.) Connorhu (vita) 2024. június 28., 18:40 (UTC)

Hello Connor, I'm sorry I did that without explanation! The reason is that at least one other translated page linked to the English ID, so the changes broke that link.
The IDs in table cells are, quite frankly, a mess in all non-English languages. No one knows if they should translate them or not. (Mostly, translators don't know what the heck they are, so they just translate them.) You may already know, but the ID is used to link to a subsection of a page. So, I could link to Küldetések#How to Win Friends, and clicking the link would take you to that section of the page instead of the top.
The IDs could be anything, like "q1", "helloworld", "küldetések222", "k49", etc. If they remain in English, there's less to translate. At least that was my thinking initially when other languages were first added. Now, it's a bit of a mess. In 11 languages.
So, now that you have the background, I'll let you decide if they should be translated or not.
Again, I apologize for not communicating this sooner! margotbean (vita) 2024. június 29., 16:39 (UTC)
Also, I apologize for not reading your comment more thoroughly! Having two IDs would solve the problem completely! The syntax would be: |id="Introductions" id="Bemutatkozás"|Bemutatkozás
Genius!! 👏👏👏 margotbean (vita) 2024. június 29., 16:42 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply and the proposed solution. I'm a software developer with more than 20+ years of experience, so I know what the id attribute can be used for. :)
Although the HTML specification does not exclude that an element can have multiple id attributes, it may cause unexpected side effects.
The fact that the reference is broken only means that after modification I have to check who is referring to that cell row (by the way, the rollback broke my reference).
The lazy and safe solution is a second id attribute on another cell. Connorhu (vita) 2024. július 10., 07:06 (UTC)
I checked, only 86 pages link to the quest page. maybe it's not a big task to do the translation for all ids and update the links. This is also an option. Connorhu (vita) 2024. július 10., 07:15 (UTC)
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